Talk:Timeline of Christian missions
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[edit]Can a piece on the "Back to Jerusalem" initiative be added the site? Christianity Today (April 2006) and Intervarsity? See www.backtojerusalem.org or the Wikpedia definition.
Nice idea for an article. Thanks. Might I suggest that changing from Saul->Paul without explanation might be confusing for some? DJ Clayworth 16:35, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Which Clovis is this? There is a disambig page from this link. Mark Richards 18:38, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Adding "Missionary sponsored" junk won't work
[edit]Somebody added "1989 - Missionary sponsored Christian separtists groups begin violent campaign in India." - and a link to a very POV article. If you think about it, missionaries have "sponsored" the IRA (via St. Patrick) and the Soviet Union (Sts. Cyril and Methodius).
I'm removing it. --Dbabbitt 17:36, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
"Home" missions
[edit]A lot of Mission (Christianity) and this article seem to be about foreign missions. Do we have material about missions to save/help the poor in the "home" country. These are sometimes called rescue missions or inner missions. Thanks for your help. Pcb21| Pete 12:41, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
First Christian nation
[edit]You have overlooked the conversion of Armenia c304 at which time the state religion was declared to be Christian.
Split timeline into sections for easier editing?
[edit]Might I suggest that the timeline be subdivided into several sections to make editing easier? DFH 21:02, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Fair warning
[edit]As of this posting, some of these entries are (to be blunt) garbage, & much of what is left badly needs copy editting & further work. I'm going to start slapping {{fact}} on a number of these entries, & deleting entries that are not about missionizing in the next couple of days unless someone else beats me to it. -- llywrch 03:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
LDS in listing?
[edit]Are you sure the Mormons are comfortable with being included in this listing (1839)? It was my understanding they thought the "church" disappeared from the earth with the death of the last Apostles and did not reappear until Joseph Smith re-established it. I don't think they would want to see themselves as one among many events in spreading Christianity around the world.
- I'm LDS -- and the one that wrote the original sentence. We are Restorationist and so don't consider ourselves Protestants or Catholics. But we are Christians, and part of the long history of Christian missions. I hope to add more information here about other early missions at least, including three large scale missions to Europe during the nineteenth century. Thank you for placing your question here rather than reverting my entry. WBardwin 19:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- That's interesting. It was my understanding that the LDS didn't really consider any of the rest of us as belonging to "authentic" churches. That's why I was surprised to see an LDS entry mingled in with other entries about great Christians of the past. So, are you saying you embrace Patrick, Angskar, Boniface, William Carey, Hudson Taylor and William Cameron Townsend as great missionaries? -- Howard 27 April 2006
- Although Restorationists, and Latter Day Saints in particular, believe that an "Apostacy" occurred leading to a break in the line of authority from Jesus, and that many truths were lost, we believe that the Spirit of the Lord has and will continue to aid and direct men of faith. Perhaps most of your impressions come from the LDS assertion as the "true" church -- which means that we believe that God's spiritual authority has been "returned" to the earth, and to the leaders of the LDS faith, through revelation. We admire Martin Luther and other men in the Protestant reformation movement and, in many ways, have our origins in English reformation. Most of the earliest leaders of the LDS church had their religious outlook shaped by Congregationalist, Methodist and Baptist teachings. We use the King James Bible as our scriptural text, along with other "revealed" LDS scripture. Although most of the names listed above would not be familiar to LDS people, we see our missionaries as heirs to the long Christian tradition beginning with the Apostles. Mormons encourage people to seek out and practice a religion of their choice, and rejoice in the teaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. While we are active and enthusiastic (some would say obsessive) missionaries about our own faith, the welfare and service functions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints also works with other Christian churches (and recently, Muslim organizations) to provide aid to inner city missions, foreign service missions, health related missions and disaster relief. So, even though we may seem different, we share many of the same goals. Didn't mean to write an "epistle" -- but hope that helps. WBardwin 21:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
I am very confortable with this page. The latter-Day Saints would not agree some basic tenants that other Christians belive in, such as their belief in there being more than one god. They may say that they worship only Jesus Christ, but they do not believe that Jesus is the only god in the whole universe. Though we are friendly to our Mormon neighbors, we cannot agree on that point.
Restructured
[edit]I have split some of the longer sections for convenience of future editing. I also made all the timeine periods into level 3 sub-sections, to distinguish them from the level 2 sections at the end. DFH 14:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Comedians have struck
[edit]In Wikipedia, articles related to history attract large numbers of wags. Even this seemingly mild and seemingly harmless article on religion has been besieged by comedians who have implanted their jokes within the "Timeline of Christian missions." Falsehoods (when passed off as being historic truths) make the wags laugh. GhostofSuperslum 08:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
For God's sake!!!
[edit]This article is outrageously evangelically one-eyed. Rather bizzarely, after the Reformation, the over 1 billion strong Catholic church is absent in this article (what! no missionary work??), and the teeny "Church of the Nazarene" appears to have taken over (puhleease!). I will be looking at this article to restore some balance and credibility!!!Cor Unum 11:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ages later- I've added a num,ber of important Catholic and Protestant missionary intiatives, but it still looks like other denominations have not added much factual information on missionary work... the Church of the Nazarene still rules because they have made an effort!Cor Unum 12:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
California
[edit]- 1514 - Franciscans begin missionary work in California
- 1541 - Franciscans begin establishing missions in California
Those dates seem improbably early, even for the Franciscans... Aille (talk) 18:41, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Wow!
[edit]This timeline is impressive! Really, I appreciate the effort put into it by so many! (Maybe this comment isn't appropriate for wiki, but really. . . I'm impressed!) —Preceding unsigned 1987 Brazil hosts Global Missions conference “Comibam” Sponsored by the Church in Latin America (Iberoamerica) where the Latin American Church declared “We are no longer a mission field but a mission force”. http://www.comibam.org/docs/COMIBAM_process.pdf
Indonesia
[edit]Two items listed are:
- 1835 - [Rhenish Missionary Society] begins work among the Dayaks on Borneo
- 1861 - Rhenish Mission goes to Indonesia under Ludwig Nommensen
I understand many of the Borneo Dayaks live in Indonesia. Hence, I wonder whether the Rhenish Missionary Society first went to Indonesia in 1835 and whether the 1861 entry was into Sumatra.--Rpclod (talk) 17:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Problem with the Tucker citations
[edit]When this article was created two book by Ruth Tucker were included in the reverence list. Some of the inline Tucker citations do not include a year so it is not possible to know to which long reference they refer:
- Tucker, Ruth (2004), From Jerusalem to Irian Jaya
- Tucker, Ruth (1988), Guardians of the Great Commission
It needs some one with access to one or both of the books to fix the broken links. If they are fixed here please also fix them in the article Christianity in the 20th century as they were copied there with the same error. -- PBS (talk) 16:44, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
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1664 – Justinian von Welz
[edit]There's currently no article on him in the English Wikipedia, but there's a page in the German Wikipedia that might be worth translating. See https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_von_Welz DFH (talk) 14:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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