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List of international cricket centuries by Geoffrey Boycott was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 18 June 2021 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Geoffrey Boycott. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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Domestic violence
[edit]Some IPs keep removing information about how conviction for assault from the lead. That information will stay. It is very widely covered in media, a vast amount of reliable and highly notable sources (virtually every British newspaper). This is not a fan page, we don't remove well-source and well-covered information because someone doesn't like it. Jeppiz (talk) 20:26, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- It was added by an IP a few days ago. It was then reverted.The IP who added the info to a stable version was reverted and therefore as per BRD consensus should have been sought for inclusion, not deletion. You shouldn't have reverted the revert without discussion. The information shall not stay until consensus is reached to alter the stable version. I certainly oppose its inclusion and agree with the editor who wrote on your talk page.NEDOCHAN (talk) 21:39, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- It is weird that it's in the lead though - normally those issues are in the personal life paragraph. If you look for example at Stan Collymore's page, the introduction paragraph doesn't cover the fact he punched his famous girlfriend despite it being a much - on another scale much - bigger news story that Boycott's case. A similar pattern can be observed across multipe articles. So it is hard to avoid the conclusion that the way the article is currently written is designed to try to attack Boycott especially as in the introduction it only covers the negative angle and doesn't include either Boycott's defence or the fact that reputable sources (Yorkshire Post) are now reporting, at least as a possiblity, that the woman made the story up - in other words it is complex and none of that nuance is given in the main introduction.
- A good contrast is Bill Clinton - a man about whome it is a serious, on-going question as to how he behaved with women and who has faced multiple accusations of rape and indeed paid off one woman who claimed sexual harassment... yet such issues, despite again being far more famous than Boycott's case, don't make the introduction to Clinton's wikipedia entry.
- To most of the public and most sources Boycott's conviction is a footnote, putting it in his introduction is certainly provocative and without question bucks the trend for wikipedia so you might as well expect it to be consistently edited. The alternative I suppose is to amend all the otehr articles such as those for Collymore and Clinton to make them match the Boycott page.
- Agreed, furthermore there's now plenty of evidence suggesting his accuser was lying and that Boycott was in fact a victim of false allegations and multiple blackmail attempts.[1]--Shakehandsman (talk) 00:11, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- To most of the public and most sources Boycott's conviction is a footnote, putting it in his introduction is certainly provocative and without question bucks the trend for wikipedia so you might as well expect it to be consistently edited. The alternative I suppose is to amend all the otehr articles such as those for Collymore and Clinton to make them match the Boycott page.
Orphaned references in Geoffrey Boycott
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Geoffrey Boycott's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Test high score":
- From List of international cricket centuries by Ian Bell: "India tour of England, 4th Test: England v India at The Oval, 18–22 August 2011". ESPNcricinfo. Retrieved 23 January 2015.
- From List of international cricket centuries by Ross Taylor: "New Zealand tour of Australia, 2nd Test: Australia v New Zealand at Perth". ESPNcricinfo. Archived from the original on 17 November 2015. Retrieved 16 November 2015.
- From Martin Crowe: "1st Test, Sri Lanka tour of New Zealand at Wellington, Jan 31 - Feb 4 1991". ESPNcricinfo. Retrieved 4 April 2019.
Reference named "1st Test 100":
- From List of international cricket centuries by Ian Bell: "Bangladesh tour of England, 2nd Test: England v Bangladesh at Chester-le-Street, 3–5 June 2005". ESPNcricinfo. Retrieved 23 January 2015.
- From List of international cricket centuries by Ross Taylor: "England tour of New Zealand, 1st Test: New Zealand v England at Hamilton". ESPNcricinfo. Archived from the original on 18 July 2017. Retrieved 4 August 2017.
- From Martin Crowe: "1st Test, England tour of New Zealand at Wellington, Jan 20-24 1984". ESPNcricinfo. Retrieved 4 April 2019.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 02:59, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- I addressed this for you! @AnomieBOT: will you marry me? Horsesizedduck (talk) 00:05, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Start of 1974 season
[edit]The article currently says "In 1974 Boycott's form dipped, when he scored only 75 runs in the first innings of the season, other than a non-championship century against Cambridge University". I assumed that the problem here was that "first innings" should have said "first 6 innings" or whatever, so I set out to find out how many innings Boycott took to score his first 75 runs. However, I can't find that figure of 75 anywhere using the records of the 1974 English first-class season at Cricinfo (http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1970S/1974/ENG_LOCAL/). Yorkshire's first matches in that season were as follows: 1. 1-3 May v Cambridge University (Boycott 140) 2. 8-10 May v Northamptonshire (Boycott 1 and 17) 3. 16-19 May v Oxford University (Boycott 89) 4. 22-24 May v Warwickshire (Boycott 15) 5. 25-28 May v Lancashire (Boycott 41 and 89*)
The only way I can get close to 75 is by omitting the Oxford University match (as well as the Cambridge University match), and also ignoring the 89* in the second innings of the Lancashire match. That would give 1, 17, 17, 41 for a total of 74 and an average of 18.50. But by the end of the Lancashire match his total was 163 with an average of 40.75, which seems quite respectable. And what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander; in the seasons where he averaged over 100 I imagine that his innings against the universities were included, and if we do that here, his average after 5 matches was 65.33.
I am a fairly conservative editor, and I don't like deleting statements outright, but it seems to me that "In 1974 Boycott's form dipped" is not justified, at least by the scores of the first few games of the season. STeamTraen (talk) 18:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
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